How to incorporate a US Corporation from outside USA ?
When we started Freshdesk,we decided to incorporate in the USA because that seemed to be best option for a SAAS company that wanted to handle recurring payments from international customers from day 1. Our preferred payment gateway will work only with US bank accounts and it is easier to get a US bank account if you are a USA corporation.We are based out of India and the options for accepting dollar payments with recurring billing were seriously limited and expensive.The only option seemed to be Paypal but again we were not sure if we could link Paypal with our Indian bank accounts for USA payments.
Since there were not many resources available on the web for incorporating a US corp from abroad I thought I will share our story for the benefit of future entrepreneurs.
Ofcourse there are many other ways to do this - but this is how we did it.
1. Incorporation - in the State of Delaware as a Delaware C Corp.
If you ask "Why Delaware" ? - We couldn't find anything convincing for "Why not" ?
Total cost for incorporation - $1278
Break up
Lawyer Fees - $1005(Ryan Roberts at http://startuplawyer.com/) I would highly recommend Ryan. He was very professional and knowledgeable and very easy to work with thru email and skype. He charged us a flat fee for the full service startup incorporation package and this included
Memorandum of Association, Articles of Association, Restricted Stock Purchase agreements, Technology Transfer agreements, Proprietary Information agreements etc.
Incorporation fees - 148 (Delaware C Corp)
Registered Agent fees - $125 (This is a yearly fee) (Bloomberg Excelsior Business Services)
(A registered agent service is mandatory to incorporate a delaware corporation if you live outside Delaware)
2. Employer ID Number (EIN - TAX Number)
Every business in the US needs a EIN number. (also known as Tax ID number) After Incorporation docs are ready, fill form SS4 and call the IRS Philadelphia center directly at
(800) 829-4933. (This is the only office in the US that processes EIN for US business that are incorporated from foreign countries.
They will give you the EIN on the phone. It may be helpful if you have a fax nearby at the time of calling. (You can fax the filled SS4 form to them so that you don't have to spell out all the details on the phone)
3. US Physical Address
You need a physical US address for receiving business documents .There are several mail service forwarding providers charging different rates.
My choice was Virtualpostmail.com - a web 2.0 company who seemed to be miles ahead of others in what seems to be a very traditional industry. I chose the $20 plan.
They scan mails and send an email, you can choose emails that needs to be opened and the contents scanned or just forward those mails to any other international address.
Before you can operate your account you need to submit a notarized form 1583 from USPS to authorize Virtual Post mail to open mails on your (and your companies behalf)
4. US Bank Account
You need a Business checking account with a US bank. If you already have a personal bank account with a US bank you can try calling them to open a business checking account. I think this is the best option. I tried calling Wells Fargo and the person on the phone told me that I cannot open a bank account with Wells Fargo and that I had to physically go to Delaware and try opening it from Wachovia. I am sure this person was wrong and I think it should be possible with Wells Fargo. I love the bank but somehow could not get my business account opened there.
If you do not have a US bank account but if you are visiting USA in the near future, you can just walk in to a bank with the incorporation documents of your company and open an account.
I posted a question regarding this in Quora (www.quora.com) and a very nice gentleman who was an advisor to many startups contacted me and referred me to Silicon Valley Bank(http://www.svb.com) (who are considered very startup friendly) and I was able to open the account from India itself.
Initially I found it amusing when I was asked to pitch my business idea or send a presentation of my business plan in order to open a business checking account. But I guess Silicon Valley bank offers so many other services to startups but our needs were pretty simple. But SVB has been great till now in terms of responsive support.
5. Merchant Account
The most popular alternatives are Paypal and Authorize.net (they have many resellers) You can go to http://feefighters.com/ to compare providers and choose one that works for you. I skipped the options provided by feefighters and went directly with Braintree Payment solutions even though they were slightly more expensive compared to others as I had read good things about them and I did not understand all the hidden fees etc.
Braintree provides me a merchant account, a payment gateway, a PCI compliant vault to store customer Credit card data and can process recurring subscription billing.
We thought we will worry about the fees when we are making millions of dollars and losing considerable money on fees :)
6. Business Credit Card
I applied for a mastercard credit card through Silicon Valley Bank - the card is secured with a money market account - basically secured with cash in my bank account.
7. US Phone Numbers
We have a free Google Voice number and a Skype Out number which is $50 per year.
The google voice number forwards the calls to our skype number.
We are considering 1-800 numbers from Grasshopper after we launch.
We also got an iPevo skype phone for receiving skype calls wirelessly, but the phone has stopped working and I am too busy to send it to the US and return it on Amazon.
Thats pretty much all you need to get the business side of things setup. The only other thing you need is a good product for which customers are willing to open their wallets and swipe their credit cards. (Oh. Ok. Maybe for some of you thats not a requirement for a successful startup! :) In either case - Good luck on your startup!






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--Badri--
I followed the link to virtualpostmail.com and it's broken. Have you changed your mail provider? If so who to? Does it worry you that a company that had scans of all your professional docs is now deadpooled?
Virtual Post Mail is doing great and are still operational. I checked the link and it does not seem broken to me. Can you please check again?
Best of luck with your startup.
Thank a lot one more time.
- Arania
We have a India company that does the software development work for Freshdesk USA and is paid by the US company for the development work.
Did you have any issue with this?
Yes Initially they said the same. I explained to them about the way my company was setup. They require this because their underwriting company wants to keep risks low. (Their assumption is overseas companies are more risky).
They accepted my application with stricter risk coverage clauses. Explain your situation to your Braintree account manager and I am sure they should be able to help based on their assessment of your business.
Cheers
Girish
What about the ongoing accountant costs AFTER you incorporated the company?
Cheers
Sebastian
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I am going through this exact process right now, and because I got my SSN while I was studying - it is a 'non-work SSN'.
Is that the same with you ?
How did you handle that with Braintree ?
They are now asking me for more credentials to prove I am in the US. Business registration documents, to prove I have a physical presence in the US - even though I don't live there.
Did you face similar issues ? If so, how did you handle it with Braintree ?
Regards
Team Miglu
Quite resourceful and helpful post listing out the necessary details.
But can you highlight on the number of travels you had to make to US and days you had to stay there in total to get your company incorporated.
Best wishes for freshdesk.
Regards,
Suvajit
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Thanks for this useful article.
Regards,
Ashish
A quick question: so the Delaware corp is taxable? Our of curiosity how do you plan to handle the taxation or is it an off-limits discussion? ;-)
Awesome post. We've been following this "tutorial" and we even used the same lawyer that you used (Ryan). Since you're in India, did you need to file a 83(b) election?
Thanks,
Diego
Can we also transfer the money from our US company to our Indian company (since both companies are by my name)? will it cause any issues?
Your comments will be really helpful for me.
I would be glad if you could help clarify a few doubts I have:
I too was also seeking a payment gateway from US (because Indian PGs did not believe in our idea) where they wanted a US Checking Account no.
My questions:
1. What are the other options to get a bank account in US if we are not funded neither have an existing US bank account?
2. Once you start accepting payments with the US incorporated firm, we do have to follow their taxation system too? (Pardon my knowledge but..) they may be having taxes on Sales and Income. And when you transfer the money to the Indian account, there would involve service tax here too. More light on this would also help.
Regards!
Ravi